WHAT MAKES A GOOD SCRIPT.

[Spoon boy]

Jaws was never my scene
And I don't like Star Wars.. O.K


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[hairbrain]

Don't worry wageslave I'm not at anybodies throat. Marti-C was the guy who should run for president, it was his paint-by-numbers aproach which shouted out for some cry from the creative soul! I've been reading this and other forums for a while and I've just grown tired of hearing dry uninspired rhetoric about rules and regulations to good art.

How many films have you seen which adhere strictly to these rules and yet are a complete waste of celuloid?
In contrast how few films have really pulled you in, really played with you, and led you into new psychological realms?

The answers to these questions illustrates vividly that Hollywoods rules, although appropriate in part, are merely the childish beginnings of understanding the science of film. To say that these rules are hard and fast, to suggest that you can learn what constitutes a good script from reading a book, or that you can direct good films through following formulas, all flies in the face of the impirical evidence;

we are at the BEGINNING of knowing how to make more and more impactful films and that, through experimentation and vision (combined with a strong gut feeling of what works and what doesn't), we will progress still further.

(The crowd applauds, the music climbs, and the credits roll)


keep it up guys you've got some great stuff in you.... just get it out there.

[Chance1234]

A good script doesnt mean a good film


Chance

[wageslave]

To be completely honest I think most films are a waste of celluloid and time. But there are a handful that are amazing.

You have to learn somehow I guess, and technical knowledge and straightforward organisation will get you so far, but you need a magic creative spark will-power and buckets of luck to get the rest.

[hairbrain]

Sorry Matt, I'm not being pretentious and arty (I can't stand all that semiotics `the image is an illusion of reality` bull).

Instead I am trying to defend that films can (and possibly should) be made in an energetic invigorating way.

Personally I'm not really interested in making a living from run-of-the-mill directing... the idea of making a nice ok type of film just doesn't do it for me. I see directing like being a singer for a pop group.... it's sexy, it's cool, and all it demands is that you turn up and apply your talent. People with pedestrian film-making attitudes are like Des O'Connor sitting on a stall singing some apealing ditty. Yeah sure it's a filler for Saturday day-time telly... but where's the juice!?


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[ilpostino]

"Make without thinking" I love that, hey I'm going to make a shopping centre but I'll be fu*ked if I'm going to think about it!

LOL

Mr hairbrain, If "mindless" doers didn't do anything then there wouldn't be anything for people like you to be "smart" about.

I think some people on this forum have forgotten about the kind of people that made film possible, i.e. the masses or the demand for our supply.

Farts in baths make people laugh!

Oh yes and other timeless quotes would be, "there are only two types of people on this planet, men and women" followed shortly by "there's no point in generalising" and "my films never been made before"

So if an "art" film brings lots of people to a cinema, could it then never be refered to as a blockbuster???? A blockbuster being in my mind a film that makes a lot of money.

You sound like a critic not a filmmaker! A critic being a perpetually frustrated artist.

Lets wipe out the work of thousands of doers and change society, you know I mean over night. Can you wipe out money? Can you wipe out human nature? Can you wipe out and I dare say it love? The need for sexual relationships, dependence on others and a vast array of emotions and other things that haven't really changed for hundreds of years. Society changes sure but in the sense of environment rather than the actual meaning of the word society! That's why some people have leaded you to believe that society won't change, because at a human level it probably never will. Until we become omnipotent beings of pure light and matter of course.

[Chance1234]

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I see directing like being a singer for a pop group.... it's sexy, it's cool, and all it demands is that you turn up and apply your talent

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Lol - your in for a shock if you think all you do is turn up :-)

[Matt J Heaton]

I've got a headache...

Films are made primarily to entertain. Some people will probably disagree with me, but a film doesn't need to have a message or push new boundaries in 'science'.

A good film is just edited life. A set of characters and circumstances which are created to be interesting to watch. They play with our moods and emotions, no need to get all pretentious and arty about it.

[his Dudeness]

Oi Chance - did you have assistant directors helping you out when you where doing Mortus Illumini????

[king13]

now now kids, ive left you alone for less than a week and look whats happened, Im glad that my question has provoked such a response, two points

1, illpostino, my comments were as a film fan and not as a pretentious film snob, take your head out of your arse and maybe you'll see

2 spoon boy, if your dissing Jaws or Starwars on my topic youd better be able to back up your words, chumpstain

3 now, Kudos to mr foster, but wageslave, I think you'll find my comments insighted this little riot we have on our hands so any claims of genius can be mailed directly to MR 13